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Cuomo Signs Tax Cap Legislation in Pleasantville

The governor held a conference at a local home on Thursday.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo paid a special visit to the Klein family in Pleasantville today.

The governor was in town to symbolically sign the bill that makes the for state municipalities and schools into law, effective fiscal year 2012.

Gov. Cuomo chose Westchester for the occasion—the highest-taxed county in the state and second highest in the country—while Russell and Tara Klein and their four sons played host for the afternoon.

"The governor's office called me yesterday and asked if they could use our front lawn to sign the property tax cap," explained Russell Klein, who added both County Legislator John Nonna and State Senator Andrea-Stewart Cousins were also on the call. "I said I'd be honored."

According to a statement from the governor's office, Westchester homeowners pay an average of $8,474 in property taxes annually, while the national average is $1,917 and the state median is $3,755.

Many local governments and school districts have been critical of the bill, which some have said needs to be coupled with strong mandate relief to be viable, in order to offset rising costs and unfunded mandates.

Cuomo said the law will force local governments "to live within their means."

Under the new law, school districts can propose budgets that carry a tax rate increase of more than 2 percent only if 60 percent of voters agree to override the law, "because we want the odds in favor of the taxpayer this time," said Cuomo.

"I agree with everything the governor expressed," Klein said. "But I think we still need to figure out the school part." Two of Klein's four sons are still students in the Pleasantville School District and his wife is active on many educational committees.

Exceptions to the law are as follows, according to the statement:

  • Judgments or court orders arising out of tort actions that exceed 5 percent of the localities' levy
  • Certain growth in pension costs where the system's average rate increases by more than 2 percentage points from the previous year; the amount of contributions above the 2 percentage points will be excluded from the limit
  • Growth in tax levies due to economic development

"This is going to end the madness, finally, once and for all," said Cuomo.

Responding to questions about mandate relief and whether the cap actually solves the issue of rising tax burdens, Cuomo said: "From the home owner's perspective, this is the full equation."

Local and school officials who argue against state mandates, "have a point," Cuomo said. "We're working to do even more to decrease the burden."

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jo June 30, 2011 at 07:50 pm
its a start..not a big fan of Cuomo.. a real tax and spend lib. so I am very "suspicious".. will give it a wait and see. approach
Greg Tart June 30, 2011 at 07:58 pm
I admire Cuomo's political skills; the is putting the onus on local government to come up with a solution to escalating pension costs- while allowing money to be had for the democrat's biggest constituency trial lawyers (tort actions). Nita Lowey and Sheldon Sheldon Silver will be so happy with that. Capping property taxes at a 2% increase sounds great, but then you have to figure its liking only getting two turns of a thumb screw every year, instead of three.
Billy June 30, 2011 at 08:03 pm
Jo, your right to be suspicious. Cuomo caved big time on the cap by exempting pension costs because the pensions are too expesive to cap, but isn't that the point of the cap? And what happened to the cap on school superindendants?
TLR June 30, 2011 at 08:33 pm
I could not help but notice that Tax Hike Mike was not in attendance . . .
Meredith Lesly June 30, 2011 at 08:37 pm
I wonder if you'll be so thrilled when services you care about get cut. Also, assessments have been going down In many places, so rates have to go just to stay even. In Hastings, the property taxes went up just enough to maintain level funding.
Aidan June 30, 2011 at 08:49 pm
It's a ruse. The pension time bomb will backdoor more taxes.
Just Curious June 30, 2011 at 08:50 pm
Great start. Now we need to look at re-working public sector pensions and reign in those ridiculously high salaries for village employees. The average 2010 SHPD salary was $112,000. The median expected salary for a typical Police Patrol Officer in the United States is $49,827. I understand there's overtime, but geez, let's slap a cap on that or reduce the force. There isn't enough crime in this nano-municipality to justify that compensation level. And to all of you who are about to bombard me with "they put their life on the line" crap, look at that national average again and ask yourself if those guys risk less.
Carmine June 30, 2011 at 08:59 pm
In theory a 2 percent tax cap is great for us home owners if it truly was a 2 percent cap but its not there are so many exemptions and it will hurt the working class people the teachers the fire departments the police departments highway sanitation county ans state employess in all departments they will have to be laid off to stay under the cap then we will be funding unemployment and welfare to pay for this so we will still be hit in the pocketbook only a different way
Patriot June 30, 2011 at 09:51 pm
Yeah, Putting your life on the line in Sleepy Hollow isn't excatly the same as washington heights, the Mexico-US boarder, or Kandahar Afghanistan. The SHPD get double or more compared to those who patrol the aformentioned cities.
Patriot June 30, 2011 at 09:52 pm
I'm glad Lloyd from D&D is getting 100K+ per year to rescue fawns from their mothers!
Gary Stewert July 1, 2011 at 01:22 am
I don't think this will help at all. NYS will just find another way to get it out of us and will just continue to pay or move. Any way who wants poor people and commoners living in the neighborhood :-) . All of this is just more smoke and mirror, (vote Cuomo 2012) Looks like a stunt to me.
An entire video in HD can be found here on Pvilles TV station website http://pctv76.org/show.php?sepid=909 they have good stuff over all, and all the local political stuff as well. Here is a related and on topic video http://pctv76.org/show.php?sepid=888
Bob Zahm July 1, 2011 at 03:32 am
Yowza. A bad bill signed by the gov'nr makes for a bad law. Was it Lincoln who said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. "? Well, given that this little beauty is meant to control property tax rates but does zippo to actually reduce / control the costs that drive property tax rates, it will be interesting to see how long it takes the people who have been fooled this go-round to recognize the mess that's been created.
elizabeth mclaughlin July 1, 2011 at 05:36 am
At the State of NY you will find rising taxes and depreciating values. Homeless, people in need of medical services, unemployed and no means to pay for it. Oh, they expect you to pay for it all.
FJT July 1, 2011 at 10:37 am
"Responding to questions about mandate relief and whether the cap actually solves the issue of rising tax burdens, Cuomo said: 'From the home owner's perspective, this is the full equation.'" That response from Cuomo is about as helpful as no response. This morning at 6:00, I tuned in to the Government Access channel hoping to see a scheduled broadcast of the recent meeting with Vision Appraisal's president and members of the community who attended to ask questions and voice any concerns. Instead, I found myself looking at a list of Upcoming Programs from which the Appraisal meeting was removed. I sincerely hope this meeting will be televised to the community. I was also hoping to see an article published here about the meeting, but have yet to see any reporting about what transpired.
Burt July 1, 2011 at 11:21 am
For those who are afraid to have our government live within their means, the tax assessors will see to it that property values increase(or remain at 2006 market peak levels) to compensate for the 2 % cap. It seems tax assessors believe they are fund raisers for the County, Towns and villages. When in fact, their job is to come up with a "Fair & Equitable Value" for the various properties. However, the position has become very political; what else is new! I must say, from personal experience, both Tarrytown and Sleepy Hollow's Tax Assessors were willing to work with me on coming up with the correct value for my properties.
George Datino July 1, 2011 at 11:50 am
I am somewhat confused. I thought the 2% cap was on the total tax levy, not the tax rate or an individual's tax payments from one year to the next. The way I understand it, a municipality or school district's tax levy can only go up by 2% from one year to the next. So if village a has a $1,000,000 tax levy in year one, in year 2 the tax levy can be no more than $1,020,000. Where the assessments come in is calculating the tax rate to use in calculating the tax bill of all individuals so they can collect the $1,020,000. Of course, as people's assessments change, the mix between individual taxpayers can change and some people's tax bill can rise more than 2% while others can be below 2% or even go down.
Anyway, if my understanding of how this works is incorrect, then please explain. Thanks for your help.
John Dickerson July 1, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I doubt this will take Westchester county's average tax bill to anywhere near the national average. Still, this is an improvement ..... and it was nice to hear that Tax Hike Mike didn't attend the signing.
I'll start my celebration when Westchester's taxes decline to something much closer to the state's median level.
Meredith Lesly July 1, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Indeed. This is typical slash-without-a-plan politics. The health care costs far outweigh pension costs, for example, at least in the places I spot-checked. In Rye, for example, over half of the total benefits were for health care.
Meredith Lesly July 1, 2011 at 12:54 pm
One of the clever things that the people with power have done, as they have always done, is to turn working people against other working people. That helps to ensure that the real culprits continue to thrive. Teachers and other civil servants didn't cause the economic crisis, but somehow in the blink of an eye they became the villains.
Joyce Furfero July 1, 2011 at 01:16 pm
Now, maybe, New Rochelle will cut Mayor Noam Bramson's part-time salary of $90,000 down to size. Really, Noam, $90,000 for a part-time job? I wonder how many New Rochelle residents earn that much for their full-time jobs.
Billy July 1, 2011 at 02:46 pm
Joyce, I feel the same but think we're all going to have to vote for St. Paul to reduce the salary Bramson is collecting from New Rochelle. He's also collecting/earning(ha!) $100k or so from the coffures of Nita Lowey.
Billy July 1, 2011 at 02:50 pm
Not really, the cap is pretty porous on municipal spending. For example, on a five member board, they'll only need 3 votes to override the cap. What a joke!
Cadeyrn July 2, 2011 at 02:51 pm
"New York’s pension fund is among the best-funded in the country ...". That's correct. But that's not the issue. The issue? Who's paid to make this the best funded and best retirement packages around? Us. The taxpayer. That's the issue.
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McKey Rivers June 18, 2013 at 04:18 pm
I believe Mr. Wasserman retained an attorney after Mr. Maglietta used the platform of school boardRead More President to announce that Mr. Wasserman was disqualified from taking his place on the Board because he wrote a letter questioning a Board action. What kind of a message was that to send to employees and others who may think the Board has done something wrong? Think twice or the School Board President will berate you in public and on TV. Mr. Maglietta as Board President also declared Mr. Wasserman's letter would be posted on the district's web site, but that didn't happen either. Let's call Mrs Maglietta's letter for what it is: the spouse of the defeated candidate for school board who has twice been shown to be wrong on issues related to the letter making a public plea for the wrong doing to be swept to avoid her husband being found culpable for his actions after he leaves office.
Laura Maglietta June 18, 2013 at 04:20 pm
Mr. McKey Rivers- Yes, the PTA FOILED the 11 page letter from Mr. Wasserman. If you like, you canRead More FOIL the FOIL. The community should know that this 11 page letter exists; it should know that Mr. Wasserman contacted an attorney. So, according to you, Mr. Bear (your icon is humorous) , Mr. Wasserman should have been the one to decide what was proper and what wasn't proper. Please check your facts - the BOE did make cuts from the original budget. So you believe that the District should spend funds on responding to Mr. Wasserman's 11 page letter. Perhaps the other BOE members do not agree that a response is warranted and would be waste of taxpayer dollars. And, if you and Mr. Sharif, two fictitious people, wish to underwrite the legal fees associated with this, please do. Unfortunately, real people will actually have to pay for it.
Laura Maglietta June 18, 2013 at 04:38 pm
Mr. Rivers - Interesting Mr. Rivers that you know with certainty Mr. Wasserman's motives behindRead More contacting an attorney. Well, now the community can feel better that a fake person is making such definitive claims. So, accordingly to your thinking, the letter should NOT have been made public. Why? All potential legal matters are public information, e.g. the notice of claims on the fields. I have read many times your scathing remarks about this board's lack of transparency. It was appropriate for the community to know about its existence. The only "wrong" here is the bullying that went on by Mr. Wasserman , et al. I am happy that my husband did not resort to such disgusting and ugly campaign tactics . This is Mr. Wasserman and his supporters legacy to this election and what he brings to the district as a BOE trustee.
Lisa Buchman (Editor) June 17, 2013 at 02:43 pm
What are folks hearing about tomorrow's vote? Will there be a good turnout at the polls?
Briarcliff PTA Executive Board June 18, 2013 at 10:02 am
We are hoping for a great turnout today. Briarcliff school district residents, please urge yourRead More neighbors and friends to get out and vote!
Lisa Buchman (Editor) June 17, 2013 at 03:04 pm
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W Obermeyer June 11, 2013 at 02:29 pm
I am afraid we may be experiencing the calm before another storm. Most likely the aftermath of theRead More BOE budget hearing tonight will be more of a nightmare than a pleasant dream.
Lisa Jenner June 11, 2013 at 02:36 pm
I am afraid that when people become civilized, they become silent.
Lisa Buchman (Editor) June 12, 2013 at 11:42 am
Thanks for putting yourself out there, Lisa! I hope others can contribute meaningfully to anyRead More discussion of community issues brought forth by thoughtful readers like you.
Brandon June 12, 2013 at 09:36 am
This is brilliant!
Mae Isaac June 12, 2013 at 09:49 am
This would be wonderful - I dread trying to drive to any of the schools that way. What about a leftRead More turn lane on to Pleasantville Road from 100 for school days? It might help those of us who live so close and yet have to drive in the opposite directions to reach the schools!
Tim June 14, 2013 at 07:53 am
Great idea in the mean time while we wait another 10 years maybe drivers could keep to the left whenRead More turning left, instead of blocking peeps trying to turn right. Also drivers need to stop blocking the entrance to Dunkin donuts etc.
Mickey Rivers June 11, 2013 at 09:52 am
Mr. O'Reilly is asking good questions in his post. I respect him for his approach. These areRead More difficult questions and as school districts continue to be squeezed at both ends (spiraling cost of benefit and pension costs at one end and tax-cap compliance choking the revenue side at other end) they will all continue be faced with these difficult questions. If school districts wait too long to develop reasonable decision trees to solve these issues, then our meddling friends in Albany will feel compelled to swoop in and screw it up royally. It is in our collective best interests to begin work now to develop and apply a thought process and resolution matrix to this issue before Albany does it for us. That requires two things. First, communities must put aside their differences and work together in a "non-partisan" manner toward local solutions that work for their district. Next, districts must collaborate and share ideas in an effort to share their ideas and help each other. At the moment, no one has the answers to Mr. O'Reilly's questions. I respect him for asking these questions and not offering solutions or opinions in his post. I also respect him for not calling out any particular district as we all all know these are issues that all districts faced this year universally. This issue will begin to compound annually if we all don't find a way to pull together and work towards solutions.
Lisa Jenner June 11, 2013 at 10:26 am
As a retired school teacher who is collecting a pension (to which I contributed for many years) andRead More is still using benefits (to which I contribute), let's remember that it is not only the teachers' pension and benefits that are squeezing the school budgets, but also, as the Briarcliff BOE pointed out, all those unfunded mandates. All of the BOEs have their hands tied regarding so many of their expenditures, that they will have to cut programs. Excellent questions, Mr. O'Reilly.
Mickey Rivers June 11, 2013 at 03:30 pm
Unfunded mandates are also a big issue for school districts. However, the teachers pensions andRead More benefits are a huge issue that must be addressed and recalibrated. It is time for teacher's pensions and benefits to be remodeled to look like those in the private sector. In the private sector, pensions are all but extinct - replaced largely by 401(k) plans (and in the case of teachers 403(b) plans where contributions are made by the employee. In terms of health benefits, in the private sector most companies pay a maximum of 60% of an employee's health care (and other benefits) premiums - not the 80% that is paid by school districts for teachers. This is financially unsustainable and needs to be addressed before it bankrupts school districts.
robin June 11, 2013 at 10:52 am
Mr. Borrel-Sorry if I came across as confrontational, that was not my intention. You should handleRead More your concerns as you think is best, however, I don't know what you will accomplish voicing your opinion in the Patch. It should also be noted, according to several high school teachers, that there are students who bring budget discussions into the classrooms.
Jay Borrel June 11, 2013 at 11:29 am
Thank you for your comments. I am sure that students do discuss, but the educator should addressRead More from a neutral stand point, just like an open discussion about religion or other politics.
Lisa Jenner June 11, 2013 at 12:25 pm
As a former high school teacher, I was constantly fending off attempts by students to divert me fromRead More teaching, and current events, local or otherwise, were a popular means to this end. Having said that, I, too, have heard of teachers "pontificating" about the budget, which, of course, is totally inappropriate. Let's hope the teachers in Briarcliff do know better and that the administration keeps a watchful eye. On a totally different topic, I have to laugh, Robin, at you looking in the directory for Mr. Borrel. The directory is my first resource for all people Briarcliff, forgetting they might not have children in the schools.
JanFisher June 8, 2013 at 10:05 pm
This is truly progress. Will both of you be taking down your negative comments now to really andRead More meaningfully get the ball rolling and to move beyond mere words? It will be good work when it is backed by real actions. I have not posted anything negative this entire time so really nothing has been accomplished yet except promises to behave. But I am truly glad that both of you are now committed to a standard of decency in public exchanges. Have a great weekend!
Lisa Jenner June 8, 2013 at 11:41 pm
I have read and re-read Mr. O'Reilly's thoughts on the BOE meeting and I will try to be fair aboutRead More this. I will admit that Mr. O'Reilly used some choice adjectives (strange, mysterious, nefarious) and asked a couple of somewhat inflammatory rhetorical questions (Will Mr. Wasserman serve his BOE time on the baseball diamond?), but I would suggest that if you disregard the rhetoric, he has presented a fairly factual presentation of what transpired at the meeting. Do you disagree?
JanFisher June 9, 2013 at 05:54 am
Lisa - my decision to write at all was out of excitement about the opportunity to help infuseRead More decency into these public exchanges. I have had my say and it has been positive. Quite honestly, I think the community at-large and the Briarcliff community are really tired of all of the public infighting on the Patch. I am committed to our schools and children and I choose to use my very limited free time and energy to volunteer for the schools when I can. Again, I do have many opinions and would love to speak with you in person- maybe we can do some good together. My cell - 439-0203.